Podcast: Jemar Tisby — “You are the church. You have a role in bringing about justice for the oppressed.”

Chuck Armstrong
2 min readNov 9, 2020
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In the fall of 2018, I had the chance to sit down with Jemar Tisby to discuss his work around the history of racism in the United States of America and the church’s complicity in that history. This conversation took place a few months before The Color of Compromise hit the streets, and while that book has now become a New York Times bestseller, it was only on pre-order when we talked.

Though this interaction took place two years ago, the sad and unfortunate reality is that Tisby’s words are just as challenging and convicting today in 2020 as they were when they were first uttered in 2018.

You can listen to the first part of our conversation below:

Podcast: Hope in Hell’s Kitchen

This is my first podcast under the name Hope in Hell’s Kitchen. The goal is that as this podcast grows, we will discuss and chat with others about a handful of values that I hold dear, and values that are helping shape a new church in Hell’s Kitchen that I am planting with several others. Tisby has been a transformative voice for me as I’ve dedicated my life to antiracism, and while I am clearer on what that means today than I was when I first sat down with him — this may be obvious in some of my questions! — I know that this is a lifelong journey and pursuit, and so I am grateful for his continued wisdom and guidance.

You can learn more about Tisby’s work here, and if you haven’t yet, please purchase and read (and read again) The Color of Compromise. You can pre-order his new book, How to Fight Racism: Courageous Christianity and the Journey Toward Racial Justice, here.

And as a complement to this conversation, make sure to read Tisby’s latest article, “The biggest threat to Christianity in the U.S.,” here.

Listen to Hope in Hell’s Kitchen via Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Breaker, Pocket Casts, RadioPublic, or Anchor.

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